e' scattata anche la partita a poker???

Su lancia è brutto leggerlo... ma non è una novità.

Adieu.....

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Sai che cosa diceva quel tale? In Italia sotto i Borgia, per trent'anni, hanno avuto assassinii, guerre, terrore e massacri, ma hanno prodotto Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci e il Rinascimento. In Svizzera hanno avuto amore fraterno, cinquecento anni di pace e democrazia, e che cos' hanno prodotto? Gli orologi a cucù.( O.Welles)

adieu da 15 anni...

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Sai che cosa diceva quel tale? In Italia sotto i Borgia, per trent'anni, hanno avuto assassinii, guerre, terrore e massacri, ma hanno prodotto Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci e il Rinascimento. In Svizzera hanno avuto amore fraterno, cinquecento anni di pace e democrazia, e che cos' hanno prodotto? Gli orologi a cucù.( O.Welles)

Lancia: Sopprimendo Y, delta e bidoni americani vari, dimenticando il marchio quei 10/15 anni.. nel 2030 fare un teaser e nel 2032 lanciare una sportiva (un po' quello che è stato fatto con Maserati) potrebbe riesumare il marchio.

Ma già secondo me non sanno dove mettere AlfaRomeo, figuriamoci un altro marchio perfettamente sovrapponibile..

per il resto: SM conferma tutto ciò che si dice da anni, con la buona notizia dei modelli alfa.

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Automotive News Europe
May 31, 2014 06:01 CET

TURIN -- Fiat will team with Mitsubishi to add a long-promised large pickup to its lineups in Europe and Latin America, sources told Automotive News Europe.

A Fiat spokesman confirmed that Mitsubishi will provide the Italian automaker with a variant of the L200. Fiat’s first body-on-frame pickup will be sold by commercial vehicle unit Fiat Professional starting in 2016, the sources said.

Broadening Fiat Professional’s lineup is a crucial element of Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne’s plan to make the automaker’s European business profitable again. Fiat has lost 2.15 billion euros in the region in the past three years, but aims to end losses by 2016.

Financial analysts estimate that one of the automaker’s bright spots in Europe is Fiat Professional, which has delivered between 200 million euros and 300 million euros in annual operational profit during the last 10 years.

Along with helping to boost Fiat Professional’s profit, Marchionne is counting on the pickup to increase the unit’s global sales to 600,000 by 2018 from 431,000 last year. Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Russia accounted for 250,000 of last year’s sales; Latin American sales were 179,000 with the remaining 2,000 coming from Asia Pacific.



Fiat sold 134,000 units of the Strada last year in Europe and Latin America.



Fiat’s current lineup includes the Strada, a front-wheel-drive-only unibody small pickup built in Brazil and sold in Europe and Latin America. The Strada was Fiat Professional’s top seller last year with a volume of 134,000 units.

The Mitsubishi-based pickup is larger and comes in rear-wheel and four-wheel-drive configurations.

Marchionne first promised a large pickup with a 1-ton loading capacity in his 2006 business plan. The pickup was due to arrive in 2008 from Fiat’s plant in Argentina sharing underpinnings with Tata Motors’ Xenon, but Fiat decided not to build its own version of the model.

Plans for a pickup reappeared in Marchionne’s 2010 business strategy. It was supposed be a version of the Dodge Dakota pickup. That model was never built.

Fiat Chrysler’s new five-year plan, unveiled earlier this month, has a pickup for Europe and Latin American debuting in 2016. At the moment it is unclear where Fiat’s pickup will be made, but Mitsubishi builds the current L200 in Thailand.


Fiat offrirà in Europa e in America latina una propria versione del pick up Mitsubishi L200.

Indiscrezioni Da Allpar sulla futura Architettura a trazione posteriore .


The new car will be around the same size as the now-discontinued front-wheel-drive Dodge Avenger, and will likely have at least one engine in common, the Pentastar V6. A mid-size rear-wheel-drive car was announced by Sergio Marchionne, who said it was not possible for Alfa Romeo to have theirs unless it could be shared with Dodge.

The development of the car was a mystery until recently. “RVC” reported on a long discussion with Chrysler Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne, which took place in Italian; RVC wrote,

[The project] started small but it’s currently composed of 200 engineers (scheduled to grow to 600 by next year), who report directly to Alfa Romeo CEO Harald Wester, with two senior Ferrari managers alternating the day-to-day [leadership], and people from the wider FCA group, including engineers from the US side, as well as engineers that were acquired from outside the group.
They also have embedded engineers from suppliers including Magneti Marelli, ZF, Johnson Controls, Bosch, and other guys, who they “snatched” to develop everything faster (they are there and work elbow to elbow, not remotely on the other side of the continent or the globe, so no commuting, etc.) .The development process seems to be at odds with Sergio Marchionne’s 2009 announcements that Chrysler would handle compact and larger cars, but at the time, this particular form of the revival of Alfa Romeo was not in the cards; and Maserati’s stunning success with its adaptation of the Chrysler 300C was also in the future and unpredicted.

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Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne wants his recently merged nine-brand automaker to more than double vehicle sales and operating profit by 2018, but financial analysts doubt there will be enough cash available to fund double-digit - and in some cases triple-digit – volume growth at eight of the marques over the next five years. They believe Marchionne will need a leaner portfolio for his plan to work.

"If it was not for Brazil, where it is the No. 1 brand, Marchionne should simply kill the Fiat brand," Philippe Houchois, a London-based auto analyst at UBS told Automotive News Europe. Said Arndt Ellinghorst of consultancy International Strategy & Investment in London: "I still think it could be Dodge or Chrysler, but not Dodge and Chrysler."

Marchionne and his team unveiled Fiat Chrysler's five-year plan last month. The key targets for 2018 include: boosting sales 60 percent to 7 million; increasing revenue to about 132 billion euros from 93 billion euros expected this year; and improving operating profit to a range of 8.7 billion euros to 9.8 billion euros from a 2014 goal of 3.6 billion euros to 4.0 billion euros. Analysts consider all three goals beyond Fiat Chrysler's reach, especially since it will carry a net debt of more than 10 billion euros until at least the end of 2016. Fiat Chrysler also must cover costs associated with 55 billion euros of self-financed investments during the plan period.

Marchionne expects to reach the lofty 2018 goals by: more than doubling of Jeep’s global sales to 1.9 million; boosting sales in China fivefold; and turning struggling Alfa Romeo into a sought-after global premium brand with eight new models and annual sales of 400,000 – up from 74,000 last year. Marchionne is betting 5 billion euros on his fourth relaunch bid for Alfa, which has failed to turn a profit during his 10-year tenure at Fiat.



‘Bottom of the pile’

Said Harald Hendrikse, a London-based analyst with Nomura Holdings: “The problem is PowerPoint presentations are a lot easier than real life. These brands need a huge amount of work to get where they need to be. The world changes very slowly and you have brands at the bottom of the pile in many regions. It’s not going to happen overnight.”

When questioned by analysts last month about the plan, Marchionne was asked whether he thinks his volume and profit expectations could actually sustain Fiat Chrysler’s nine brands over the long term. The CEO said that Fiat Chrysler’s advantage is that “we now have brands in the marketplace that are not butting heads.” He added that the new plan already eliminated two brands: Lancia and SRT.

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Lancia era ends

Lancia will sell its one car, the Ypsilon, only in Italy until the 3-year-old model is discontinued, likely by the end of the decade. SRT will be downgraded to a subbrand of Dodge. Marchionne said the automaker’s leadership “debated heavily” whether to merge Chrysler and Dodge. “Co-mingling Dodge and Chrysler would have cost us a lot of share,” the CEO said. He didn’t believe that it would have been possible to satisfy all customer needs with a combined Dodge and Chrysler. “That combination doesn’t work in our view,” he said. Instead, Marchionne wants to double the Chrysler brand’s lineup to six models by the end of 2018 and eliminate two Dodge nameplates – the Avenger sedan and Grand Caravan minivan – to settle what he called a long-running “internal turf war” between the brands. Chrysler will be positioned as the company’s “mainstream North American brand” and challenge Ford, Chevrolet, Hyundai and others. USB’s Houchois fears that Dodge will take a harder-than-expected hit when it stops making a large minivan. “It is a bold move indeed,” he said.

Marchionne promised that Fiat Chrysler would continue to emphasize brand differentiation to avoid making a mistake he sees in the current marketplace. “Depending where you travel, I’ve seen cars that start with an R having a D in front of them,” he said, referring to Dacia models re-badged as Renaults in countries such as Russia and outside of Europe. “The cross mixing of brands is going to destroy the fabric of the brand. A brand is a precious thing,” Marchionne added. His words and passion for brand preservation come too late for Lancia. The 108-year old Italian automaker suffered its final blow when its European lineup added rebadged large Chryslers that found few buyers in Europe.

Fiat Chrysler's roadmap to 7 million sales
Fiat Chrysler Automobiles aims to increase global sales 60 percent to 7 million by 2018 from 4.4 million last year. To reach the goal CEO Sergio Marchionne wants to boost Chrysler, Fiat and Jeep's combined sales by more than 2 million vehicles in the next five years. The CEO also will invest 5 billion euros in the chronically underperforming Alfa Romeo brand in a bid to boost sales fivefold to 400,000 by 2018. Here is a brand-by-brand breakdown of the expectations (listed in alphabetical order).

Alfa Romeo

2018 target: 400,000; 2013 sales: 74,00
Key points: Alfa will get a completely new lineup featuring eight models based on a new rear-wheel/all-wheel-drive architecture. The first model -- a mid-sized sedan – is due in late 2015. Marchionne said he expects Alfa's 2019 sales to exceed a half million. Alfa and Jeep are the main pillars of the automaker's global expansion plan.

Chrysler

2018 target: 800,000; 2013: 350,000
Key points: Chrysler will be expanded to six models that cover 65 percent of the global market from three models that cover 25 percent of total sales. The three additional models – the 100 compact sedan, a mid-sized crossover and full-sized crossover – are expected to add about 275,000 sales by 2018. Chrysler also is expected to win about 175,000 customers a year from sister brand Dodge after it stops making the Avenger mid-sized sedan and Grand Caravan minivan in 2018.

Dodge

2018 target: 700,000; 2013: 800,000
Key points: Dodge's global volume will decline as it eliminates models and is turned into a performance brand.

Ferrari

2018 target: 7,000; 2013: 7,000
Key points: Ferrari aims to protect its exclusivity by limiting sales to 7,000 supercars a year. Four-model range will feature two cars with V-8 engines and two with V-12s. Ferrari will debut a new or revised model each year and give its models an eight-year life cycle.

Fiat

2018 target: 1,900,000; 2013: 1,500,000
Key points: Fiat brand foresees no sales growth in Europe during the five-year plan as 2018 sales are expected to be flat at 700,000. Growth will come from Fiat's largest sales region, Latin America, where it expects to sell 800,000 vehicles by 2018, up more than 100,000 from last year. Marchionne wants Fiat to triple sales in Asia-Pacific to 300,000 and double volume in North America to about 100,000. Fiat's U.S. sales should get a boost from the 500X subcompact SUV, which is due to debut in Europe later this year, and a two-seat roadster derived from the new Mazda MX-5. The roadster is due in late 2015 and will be sold worldwide.

Fiat Professional LCVs

2018 target: 600,000; 2013: 431,000
Key points: The vans unit expects to maintain European market share, grow in Russia and Latin America and strengthen its presence in the Middle East and Africa.

Maserati

2018 target: 75,000: 2013: 15,400
Key points: Maserati will grow to six model lines from three during the next five years with the additions of the Levante, the company's first SUV, in 2015, the Alfieri coupe (2016) and cabriolet (2017), and the redesigned four-seat GranTurismo (2018).

Jeep

2018 target: 1,900,000: 2013: 732,000
Key points: Jeep's manufacturing footprint will be expanded to 10 plants in six countries from four U.S. plants. Jeep production will be added in Italy, Brazil, China and India. In the next five years Jeep's U.S. capacity will be stable at 1 million while Europe will grow to 200,000 units a year. Jeep's dealer network will expand to 6,023 outlets in 2018 from 4,706 now to cope with the growth.

Ram
2018 target: 620,000; 2013: 463,000
Key points: Ram's U.S. range will add models derived from the Fiat Ducato and Doblo and add diesel powertrains.

Luca Ciferri and Jennifer Clark


Un interessante analisi da parte di automotive news sui piani strategici del gruppo Fiat-Chrysler.
FCA e' un gruppo multibrand come vw, Renault-Nissan o Gm, e' quindi cruciale una chiara definizione dei ruoli e delle strategie delle singole divisioni per permettere una buona crescita.
Attualmente il gruppo ha nel suo portafoglio di offerte Fiat auto passeggeri, Fiat veicoli commerciali, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Abarth, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, RAM, Dodge, Jeep, SRT, Chrysler.
Già e' noto che Lancia e' destinata a scomparire entro fine del decennio mentre SRT sarà assorbita da Dodge.
La stessa Dodge e' destinata alla scomparsa entro 10 anni al massimo: le hanno tolto i pick up RAM (40% della produzione), i minivan (25% ) ha come gamma solo la Dart ( mega flop), la Durango ( che morirà nel 2017) e la Charger ( fine produzione 2018).
Dall' altra parte dello spettro c'è Jeep, il vero gioiello della corona, nel 2015 dovrebbe raggiungere 1 milione di unità ed è pronta allo sbarco in Cina, Brasile e forse in Russia.
Mi fa un po' sorridere che adesso Marchionne sia diventato uno scopritore del valore del brand dopo aver ucciso Lancia, massacrato Alfa e raso al suolo Dodge.
Vedremo cosa succederà.

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Mitsubishi began producing the Attrage at a Thailand factory last year.
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June 26, 2014 21:11 CET
TOKYO (Reuters) -- Mitsubishi Motors will supply Attrage sedans to Fiat Chrysler Automobiles for sale in Asian markets later this year, Japan's Nikkei reported.

Fiat Chrysler is expected to sell the sedans, which Mitsubishi began producing at its Thailand factory last year, under the Chrysler brand name in China and other Asian markets, according to Nikkei.

The partnership, which is expected to be announced early next week, will help Fiat expand in Asia by sourcing less expensive, fuel-efficient cars from Mitsubishi, the Japanese daily said.

Fiat Chrysler has operated in China for some time, but the company has a market share of only 0.6 percent in the world's biggest light-vehicle market and in the Asia-Pacific region.

Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne unveiled a turnaround plan in May and said the company will expand in China by producing Jeeps and more Fiats locally.

Mitsubishi is targeting a near-50 percent sales boost in Southeast Asia markets as the region accounts for a quarter of its global vehicle sales.



Non solo il pick up l200, Mitsubishi produrrà anche una versione Chrysler della sua berlina compatta Mirage ( deriva dalla colt),.

Mi sono spesso domandato dell'utilità di queste oeprazioni..

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L'accordo non e' stato ancora ufficializzato ma Imho ha perfettamente senso.
Negli usa si vendono pick up giganteschi ma nel resto del mondo i più venduti sono quelli sui 4,7 mt tipo Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger e Mitsubishi L200, Fiat offre in Brasile la Strada che e' un pick up molto piccolo su base Palio.
Fiat-Chrysler grazie a questa piccola berlina Mitsubishi potrebbe crescere più rapidamente in Cina e sud est asiatico.

Fiat che si fa far auto piccole e spartane da altri mi vien nuova...

In linea teorica potevano decidere di produrre l'erede della Linea in Cina, probabilmente hanno visto che l'accordo con Mitsubishi (che ha una lunghissima storia di alleanze con Chrysler) gli sarebbe costato di meno.

Luca Ciferri
Automotive News Europe
September 1, 2014 06:01 CET
TURIN -- Alfa Romeo has started development on three new models that will be key to the struggling brand’s turnaround. The cars are a midsize sedan to rival the BMW 5 series, a midsize SUV that will take on models such as the Audi Q5 and a flagship large sedan.

The cars are the first wave of eight new Alfas announced May 6 as part of a 5 billion euro ($7 billion) investment to boost the brand’s global sales to 400,000 vehicles in 2018 from 74,000 last year.

Alfa and its parent, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, have declined to give specifics on the brand’s upcoming models since the May announcement when Alfa CEO Harald Wester also said the brand will switch to rear- and all-wheel drive configurations from front-wheel drive.

Here is Alfa’s latest future product plan, according to Automotive News Europe sources:

Midsize sedan: Code-named Project 952, a midsize sedan will be the first of Alfa Romeo’s new products and will target models such as the Audi A6. The sedan is scheduled to debut in European showrooms in mid-2016 and in the U.S. by the end of that year.

Originally due in 2014 badged as the Giulia, this sedan most likely will get a different name. It is a successor to the Europe-only 159 that was discontinued in 2011. On the sedan, Alfa Romeo will debut its new range of gasoline direct-injection engines featuring single or twin turbochargers. Planned are a 2.2-liter inline-four rated from 180 to 330 hp and a 3.3-liter V-6 with output from 400 to more than 500 hp. Meanwhile, two diesels are planned: a 120- to 210-hp inline-four and a 250- to 330-hp V-6.

Midsize SUV: This Audi Q5 rival is set to debut in the second half of 2016, sharing its underpinnings and engine range with the midsize sedan

Large sedan: Alfa Romeo’s new flagship, to rival the Audi A8 and BMW 7 series, will be a large version of the new midsize sedan. It will have powerful versions of the new engine range, but no V-8 is planned.

More models

The timing and complete description of the rest of Alfa’s new range are still open, but here is what Automotive News Europe has learned from sources with direct knowledge of the plans.

4C Spider: Previewed by a concept in March at the Geneva auto show, the roadster version of the low-volume 4C coupe is due by summer 2015. Despite the spider (roadster) name, this 4C variant is actually a targa model, with a small carbon-fiber roof section that has to be manually removed and stored.

Midsize roadster: Alfa is working on a roadster that will use a shortened version of the midsize sedan platform. A smaller roadster based on the new Mazda MX-5/Miata is due to be built by Mazda in Japan starting next year. It was originally planned as an Afla Romeo model but will now be sold with a Fiat badge. The Alfa roadster will offer more engines than the Mazda-based model, which can only accommodate Fiat’s 1.4-liter engine used by the Alfa Giulietta. The larger roadster's engines will include the turbocharged 1.8-liter inline-four of the 4C coupe and a new 2.2-liter inline-four.

Midsize coupe: This derivative of the midsize sedan will comfortably seat four adults. Still under discussion is the final layout. It will be either a standard two-door coupe to rival the Audi A5 and BMW 4 series or a four-door coupe-stlyed model to compete with the Audi A7 and the BMW 6-series Gran Coupe.

Large SUV: Alfa Romeo has long planned a large SUV, mainly for the United States and China. The production model most likely will be a sibling to the Maserati Levante. which goes into production late next year in Fiat’s refurbished Mirafiori plant in Turin.

Compact hatchback/sedan and coupe: The final models that Alfa Romeo is considering are undecided because of the different needs of various regions. Europe is asking for a five-door hatchback to replace the current fwd Giulietta and a station wagon variant to rival the Audi A4 and BMW 3-series wagons. North America and Asia have smaller markets for compact hatchbacks and wagons, so executives responsible for these markets are pushing for a four-door sedan and a compact coupe.

Former Ferrari execs take lead

In the five-year plan unveiled in May, Wester promised that the new Alfa Romeos would share a rwd and awd architecture engineered for various vehicles, including compacts, full-size cars and SUVs. Future Alfas also will have gasoline and diesel engines specific to the brand and a Green Cloverleaf high-performance engine for each nameplate.

A team of more than 300 engineers is working on the new nameplates in Modena, Italy, where Ferrari and Maserati are headquartered. The team is set to double in size to 600 people by the end of next year. Both the chassis and engine bosses are former Ferrari employees.

Currently Alfa sells just three models in Europe: the Giulietta compact, MiTo subcompact and 4C sports car. The brand’s European sales fell to 37,695 from 41,793 in the first seven months, according to JATO Dynamics. With the new models, Alfa will expand to become a global brand with the aim of challenging the premium-market dominance of BMW, Audi and Mercedes-Benz.

Fiat expects the United States to play a big role in Alfa's expansion and the company's business plan sees Alfa's annual sales in North America at 150,000 vehicles by 2018, up from none last year.



Autonews svela i dettagli dei nuovi prodotti alfa per i prossimi 4 anni.
La prima ad arrivare sarà la Giulia ( che forse avrà un altro nome) a fine del 2016. Avrà la trazione posteriore, una versione sw e nuovi diesel e benzina.
Successivamente arriveranno un'avversaria della serie 5 e una suv media anti Q5.
Altri modelli non sono ancora stati decisi secondo la rivista americana. Si starebbe discutendo a riguardo di un'erede della Giulietta, un suv su base Levante e una spider sui 4,5 mt.

Piani ambiziosi e succulenti,chissà che non torni un'alfa in famiglia: v6 a traz. posteriore!!!

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Staff report
Automotive News Europe
September 19, 2014 08:44 CET -- UPDATED: Sept. 19 14:50 CET -- Adds production volume
MILAN -- Fiat Chrysler will source a new midsize pickup for Europe and Latin America from Mitsubishi Motors starting in 2016.

The truck will be based on the next-generation Mitsubishi L200 model, Fiat and Mitsubishi said in a statement today.

The deal is supposed to help boost the Italian carmaker's commercial vehicle sales and raise output at the Japanese company's plant in Thailand.

Mitsubishi is set to start manufacturing a re-designed L200, also known as the Triton, at its Thai plant later this year.

In early 2016, it will start producing a Fiat-dedicated line of the L200, which will be rebadged and sold under the Fiat brand, said Mitsubishi spokesman Tetsuji Inoue.

"This is beneficial for both companies because Mitsubishi Motors will boost production and Fiat will strengthen its product lineup," Inoue said.

Mitsubishi is expected to supply Fiat with 150,000-170,000 trucks over six years, although the figures have yet to be finalized, Inoue said, adding that the two companies were not considering any further cooperation.

The automakers said they have signed a non-binding memorandum of understanding to develop and manufacture the truck.

Automotive News Europe reported in May that the pickup will be sold by the Fiat Professional light commercial vehicle brand in Europe and Latin America.

Fiat Chrysler’s new five-year plan, unveiled in May, has a pickup for Europe and Latin America debuting in 2016. Fiat’s current lineup includes the Strada, a front-wheel-drive-only unibody small pickup built in Brazil and sold in Europe and Latin America. The Strada was Fiat Professional’s top seller last year with a volume of 134,000 units.

Broadening Fiat Professional’s lineup is a crucial element of Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne’s plan to make the automaker’s European business profitable again. Fiat has lost 2.15 billion euros ($2.93 billion) in the region in the past three years, but aims to end losses by 2016.

"The Fiat Professional unit is likely already making better margins then the average for the Fiat group and if the two companies share development and production costs, this should help that further," said a Milan-based analyst said who asked not to be named.

Long-promised truck

Marchionne first promised a large pickup with a 1-ton loading capacity in his 2006 business plan. The pickup was due to arrive in 2008 from Fiat’s plant in Argentina sharing underpinnings with Tata Motors’ Xenon, but Fiat decided not to build its own version of the model.

Plans for a pickup reappeared in Marchionne’s 2010 business strategy. It was supposed be a version of the Dodge Dakota pickup. That model was never built.

Fiat is completing a merger with its U.S. unit Chrysler. The combined Fiat Chrysler Automobiles is expected to list in New York in the middle of next month as it seeks to boost the global clout of the world's No. 7 carmaker.

While the carmaker has denied talk it is pondering tie-ups with Volkswagen and Peugeot, Marchionne said Fiat would consider cooperation with other carmakers on very specific projects.

Earlier this year, Fiat signed a deal with Renault for the French group to supply the Italian carmaker with a light commercial vehicle based on a Renault platform.

Friday's cooperation announcement with Mitsubishi is the second between the two auto groups this year after Chrysler, wholly owned by Fiat, agreed to sell a rebadged Mitsubishi compact sedan in Mexico. This car is also made at Mitsubishi's hard-hit plant in Thailand.

Mitsubishi's production dropped 11.4 percent in April-July to 93,000 vehicles in Thailand, where the company is facing a drop in sales and production due to a political crisis and declining demand for cars.

FCA e Mitsubishi hanno finalizzato un secondo accordo per la fornitura di Pick up L200 che a partire dal 2016 verranno venduti con il marchio Fiat in Sud America e in Europa.
L'arrivo di un pick up medio e' stato molto tormentato in casa Fiat, secondo le presentazioni di Marchionne era previsto già nel 2008. In tal modo FCA avrà una gamma completa di Pick up dalla Strada ( su base Palio) al gigantesco RAM.

PARIS (Reuters) -- While rivals rolled out new models and concept cars, Fiat had little to display at the Paris auto show besides the 500X in what is starting to look like a worrying trend for the carmaker's namesake brand.

Following the full takeover of U.S. unit Chrysler, the newly-named Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) has set out an ambitious growth plan focused on its upmarket Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Jeep brands.

Analysts say it makes sense to concentrate on higher-margin premium vehicles that are selling strongly in the United States and emerging markets, but are concerned the group is neglecting a Fiat brand which still accounts for a large chunk of sales.

FCA sold 1.5 million Fiats last year, with deliveries of the mass-market brand accounting for 34 percent of the group total.

The 500X, which was unveiled in Paris is another variant of its retro-styled 500 minicar. It should help lift sales by adding to the popular subcompact SUV category. IHS Automotive forecasts that Fiat will sell 73,000 units of the 500X next year, climbing to 97,000 in 2016 when its is fully rolled out in 100 global markets. But the car is unlikely to significantly change the face of Fiat's core brand, starved of models and stuck with an aging line-up.

"The 500 is getting older and older, the success of its variants has been limited and they lack a competitive offering at a time when Volkswagen, Peugeot and Renault continue to launch new cars," said Sascha Gommel, an analyst at Commerzbank. "Even if the European recovery was gaining momentum, Fiat would definitely lose out."

Striking gold

CEO Sergio Marchionne struck gold in 2007 when he chose the 500 hatchback to revive the flagging Fiat marque, selling more than a million in the six years after relaunch.

The Fiat 500 is as Italian as a cup of espresso or actress Sophia Loren. It was meant to be Marchionne's answer to BMW's Mini and help drive sales of other models within the Fiat family.

But a strategy that got off to a promising start hit a few bumps in the road, not least an economic crisis that pushed car sales in Europe into a six-year slump, from which the sector is only gradually recovering.

European sales of the 500 are still high but have come down from their 2008-2009 peaks, despite customized features and electric and cabriolet versions. A rise in buyer incentives in the United States and Europe to boost sales also hints at problems and risks devaluing the product, analysts say.

Meanwhile, Fiat dealers say the 500 revamp has failed to rub off on other cars within the brand, some of which are looking tired. Fiat's Punto subcompact hatchback is already nine years old.

"Mini did the classic rollout of keeping sales steady over the years by slowly and steadily introducing product variations, but Fiat is not that disciplined," said Jane Nakagawa, managing director at Portia Consulting. "To the average consumer, the variations they have come out with were relatively invisible."

Fiat's global market share in the B-segment of small subcompact cars has fallen from 9.3 percent in 2007 to 6.2 percent last year and is expected to dip below that level to 5.7 percent by 2018, according to forecaster IHS Automotive.

In the minicar A-segment, under which Fiat's popular 500 and Panda models fall, Fiat's market share is seen falling from around 7 percent to just under 5 percent between 2007-2018.

U.S. dip

Fiat needed half the time it took Mini or Kia to breach the 40,000 sales mark in the U.S. market. However, Fiat 500 sales peaked in 2012 and fell 18 percent last year, while overall volumes for the Fiat brand dipped 1.2 percent in 2013.

The larger five-door 500L was hit by two recalls and the Serbian factory which produces the model was temporarily suspended last month due to "market conditions".

"The 500L recall was a bump in the road and we are ready to move on," said Jason Stoicevich, head of the Fiat brand for North America. He said Fiat was on track to have its best sales year in the United States this year since the brand was brought back there in 2011, with sales through September up 8 percent.

Stoicevich is betting on the 500X to speak to U.S. consumers who like sport utility vehicles (SUVs), are looking for something larger than a city car, and want a sturdier car with all-wheel drive capability to withstand harsher weather.

"This is going to be a real game-changer," he said. "It is the first vehicle we will put on the road here where there really is no reason for rejection in terms of either size or capability."

Tall order

As a group, FCA plans to invest 48 billion euros ($61 billion) over five years to boost sales by 60 percent to 7 million cars.

Its ambitions for Fiat are more modest in comparison: sales are seen growing by nearly 30 percent to 1.9 vehicles by 2018, with the brand focusing growth on the Americas and Asia, while aiming to keep deliveries flat in a struggling European market.

But some analysts think that will be a tall order, especially if Fiat has to compete with Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Jeep for the heavily indebted group's stretched finances.

They also say Fiat's five-year product pipeline of 27 new entries includes few surprises besides remakes of its popular 500, Panda, or Punto models. By 2017, the brand will only feature two or three models in the fast-growing compact SUV segment, they add.

FCA said during its strategy announcement it recognized the need to purify the DNA of the Fiat brand, and that it would develop products that are either "functional" or "aspirational."

It also said it would leverage the 500 family to expand in the upper segment of the mainstream market.

"That entire brand has lots of magic sprinkled on their product," said Portia's Nakagawa, referring to the 500’s past successes and the new Panda, which has been selling well. "But they also need to make some hard choices about which models fit the idea of functional or aspirational, and which need to go."


Gli analisti stanno criticando la scelta del marchio Fiat di focalizzarsi solo su 500 e derivate. Secondo questo articolo prima o poi dovranno essere prese scelte più importanti per non rischiare il naufragio del marchio.
Imho FCA nel' ultimo piano ( sempre se verrà rispettato) a Fiat ha affidato un ruolo poco importante quindi e' anche ovvio che riceverà meno risorse degli altri.

Staff and wire reports
Automotive News Europe
November 6, 2014 11:22 CET -- UPDATED: Nov. 6 16:00 CET - adds correction
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misstated the production plant for the Bravo.

TURIN - Fiat's Turkish joint venture, Tofas, will invest $1 billion to produce a family of compact cars that will replace the Bravo in Europe.

Tofas today said it will produce three new cars starting in 2016, mainly for export, without providing any details of the models.

Automotive News Europe sources say the family will include a hatchback, sedan and station wagon. The hatchback will replace the Bravo and the sedan variant will replace the Linea that is currently sold only in central and eastern Europe and Turkey.

Fiat has been without a compact wagon since the Stilo Multiwagon was discontinued in 2008.

Tofas said last year that it will spend $520 million to build 580,000 units of a new sedan model. It said today that it would also build new hatchback and station wagon models -- 700,000 units in total -- bringing its overall investment to $1 billion.

The investment will begin this year and production will run from 2016 to 2023, Tofas said in a filing with the bourse.

"A significant portion of the total units are slated for export. Talks with the Fiat Group Automobiles on the details for the conditions of investment, sales and procurement are in the final stage," it said in a statement.

European sales of the aging Bravo have slumped, falling by 59 percent to 3,078 units in the first nine months, according to JATO Dynamics market researchers. Fiat ended Bravo production at its plant in Cassino, Italy, in July.

The three new models will be underpinned by Fiat Chrysler's small US wide architecture first used for the Fiat 500L small minivan. The architecture also underpins the Renegade and 500X small SUV with the addition of a four-wheel-drive option.

Tofas's plant in Bursa, Turkey, builds the Linea and car-derived vans - the Doblo and Fiorino for Fiat, as well as the Citroen Nemo, Peugeot Bipper and Opel/Vauxhall Combo, according to Automotive News Europe's Guide to European Assembly Plants.

Export hub

Turkey has Europe's fifth-biggest auto industry. Total production is expected to hit a record 1.25 million units this year, the Automotive Manufacturers' Association said in July. The country's geographical position between Asia and Europe and relatively cheap labor costs have encouraged global carmakers to shift some of their production here.

Automotive sales account for 14 percent of Turkey's overall exports. The country exported 828,000 vehicles worth $21.5 billion last year, with European markets accounting for 70 percent of that total.

La Jv tra Fiat e Tofas ha annunciato che produrrà tre modelli di segmento C a partire dal 2016.
Parlare di segmento C e' un po' sbagliato dato che saranno le eredi della Linea. Un po' come la Rapid, base tecnica dal segmento B ma dimensioni da segmento C.

Alcuni retroscena industriali da Allpar .


"All publicity is going to the Italian “skunkworks” development efforts. It’s as though the Dodge link never existed."


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Mi sembra un po' confuso l'articolo.
Da quanto hanno detto le varie riviste internazionali, anche americane, il pianale Giorgio e' sviluppato completamente in Italia, non e' lo stesso della Charger. Tra l'altro Dodge non avrà berline medie dopo l'uscita di scena della Avenger. Io sono convinto che entro la fine del decennio Dodge verrà cancellata dato che le ultime decisioni strategiche l'hanno massacrata e lasciata senza prodotti.
Ghibli e Quattroporte sono su pianali Chrysler ma la Levante non dovrebbe derivare dalla 300C.

Certamente si tratta di semplici appassionati , anche se alcuni di quelli che scrivono hanno dei rapporti stretti con la Chrysler , quindi le notizie vanno pesate con il bilancino e vanno seguite nel loro svolgersi per avere un certo grado di affidabilità .

Levante all'inizio doveva essere una Gcherokee ricarozzata, poi l'hanno ritardata di quasi 2 anni e hanno deciso di farne una ghibli rialzata.
Le nuove alfa di segmento D (4porte e suv) sono interamente progettate in Italia Modena a qualcosa Torino lunghe meno di 470cm, con tanto alu e la TP, chi dice che sono sviluppate in Usa lo fa in malafede vedi LCDM o la miriade di alfisti-DasAlfa che infestano i forum e che ancora non riescono a capacitarsi dal fatto che la loro odiata fiat farà alfa a TP.

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

Io queste notizie sapevo.
Le indiscrezioni riportate provengono dagli States, non so quanto siano valide, tutte le riviste internazionali parlano di uno sviluppo interamente in Italia.
Può essere anche che alcune idee sian state sviluppate negli States e poi portate in Italia.

P.s. Su quattroruote ho letto che diverse componenti di alcuni motori Ferrari vengono da Detroit, c'era un articolo qualche mes e fa su quattroruote.

Il basamento in alu del V6 di ghibli è il pentastar che arriva da Detroit, su cui poi viene montata a Maranello una testata specifica progettata con ferrari, la versione top di 952 invece avrà un nuovo v6 derivato da ferrari con quasi 500cv.
Cmq alla faccia di LCDM che pare non si sia accorto di nulla strano e dei vari DasAlfa che ancora negano che ci saranno nuove alfa, a Modena ci sono almeno 600 persone che progettano le nuove alfa, poi in effetti come dici....chissà magari il pianale ha alcune idee che provengono dagli usa dal famoso progetto barracuda.

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

Allpar spiega con pìù precisione la filiera del v6 , cercando si trova pure una presunta foto del monoblocco del v6 in versione maserati .

Montezemolo non si occupava della gestione quotidiana di Ferrari da svariati anni, Marchionne aveva nominato Amedeo Felisa come ceo e quindi sfruttava le sinergie industriali.
Montezemolo è stato cacciato non perché la Ferrari non producesse abbastanza utili o perché non vinceva le corse.
Semplicemente Marchionne ed Elkann volevano aumentare il valore delle azioni e regalare Ferrari ad Exor senza sborsare un euro. Montezemolo non voleva cedere il potere che per decenni aveva conservato sotto l'occhio benevolo dell'avvocato.