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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: lun set 25, 2017 7:29 pm 
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Bisogna vedere come funzionerà. L’ idea è quella di usare Opel in Europa come testa d’ariete “tedesca” in quei mercati in cui PSA non va benissimo ma usando tecnologia francese. Il problema di Opel non sono i costi che sono molto più bassi di Vw o anche di PSA e di Renault ma la necessità di scontare pesantemente e di registrare a se stessi una quota elevata di immatricolazioni.
Opel ha bisogno di una strategia chiara e di un posizionamento ne’ premium ne’ pseudo Dacia o Fiat.
Tavares non ha molto tempo perché le perdite di Opel e ( ancora peggio) il crollo di PSA in Cina potrebbero mettere in soffitta la ristrutturazione del 2014.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: mar set 26, 2017 8:08 am 
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daimlerchrysler ha scritto:
Bisogna vedere come funzionerà. L’ idea è quella di usare Opel in Europa come testa d’ariete “tedesca” in quei mercati in cui PSA non va benissimo ma usando tecnologia francese. Il problema di Opel non sono i costi che sono molto più bassi di Vw o anche di PSA e di Renault ma la necessità di scontare pesantemente e di registrare a se stessi una quota elevata di immatricolazioni.
Opel ha bisogno di una strategia chiara e di un posizionamento ne’ premium ne’ pseudo Dacia o Fiat.
Tavares non ha molto tempo perché le perdite di Opel e ( ancora peggio) il crollo di PSA in Cina potrebbero mettere in soffitta la ristrutturazione del 2014.


Insomma le premesse non sono male eh :ridi
Già vedo la pubblicità: "E' una tedesca!"*


*può contenere tracce di Citroen :ridi

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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: mar set 26, 2017 9:54 am 
Oh ora è *può contenere tracce di Fiat.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
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dalla padella alla brace. dalla bufala al camembert.

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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: sab ott 14, 2017 12:42 pm 
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Automotive News Europe
October 13, 2017 20:41 CET -- UPDATED: Oct. 14 9:15 CET - adds PSA comments

LONDON -- PSA Group is cutting jobs at a UK factory that builds Opel and Vauxhall Astra cars for European markets.

The French automaker, which finalized its purchase of Opel/Vauxhall from General Motors in August, will ax up to a quarter of the workforce at Vauxhall’s plant in Ellesmere Port in northwest England.

PSA said it will cut 400 jobs at the factory to improve the production facility's competitiveness, confirming an earlier report in Automotive News Europe.

Ellesmere Port needs to adjust production volumes because of "challenging European market conditions and a declining passenger car market, a PSA spokesman said on Friday.

The factory must also improve its performance to protect its future, the spokesman said.

The cuts will be made through voluntary layoffs.

The cuts will happen by reducing production to a single shift, down from two now, sources told ANE.

The plant is one of two Astra production factories in Europe along with Gliwice in Poland. It builds Astra hatchbacks and wagons and employs 1,667 people, according to Vauxhall’s website.

The move throws into doubt the plant’s survival after 2021 when production of the current Astra comes to an end. PSA has given assurances that production would continue until that date but not beyond that.

Ellesmere Port’s future was already being questioned following the UK’s decision last year to exit from the European Union in 2019. That could make manufacturing more expensive if, as is looking increasingly likely, the UK fails to agree tariff-free access to EU markets.

Cars built in Ellesmere Port are dependent on parts delivered from the EU, with only a quarter of the car’s content coming from UK suppliers.

The UK is Vauxhall/Opel’s biggest market, but Vauxhall sales fell 20 percent in the first nine months as the overall British car market cooled. Fleet sales account for around three quarters of all Vauxhall sales.

Astra sales across Europe fell 2.6 percent through August, according to market researchers JATO Dynamics.

The job cuts will anger unions, who have been given assurances Astra production will remain in Ellesmere Port until 2021. "PSA has stated that they are committed to producing Astra and we have stated clearly we are keen to get investment into that plant for new models,” said a spokesman for Unite, Britain’s largest trade union.

High production costs

PSA is committed to the Ellesmere Port plant, its spokesman said, while pointing that current manufacturing costs there were "significantly higher" than those of the benchmark PSA plants in France.

PSA CEO Carlos Tavares said in September that PSA factories appear to be more productive than plants operated by Opel/Vauxhall. "The gaps I have seen so far are quite big," he said at the Frankfurt auto show.

Tavares said last month that it was hard to decide upon the group's strategy for Vauxhall given lack of clarity over Britain's plans to leave the European Union.

The PSA spokesman said the automaker would be in a position to consider future investments once it has visibility on Britain's future trading relationship with the EU and once the plant's competitiveness has been addressed

Earlier this week PSA announced new compact and midsize models for its Sochaux and Mulhouse plants in France in 2020 and 2021, which it said secured their future over the next decade.

Reuters contributed

Opel sta per annunciare il taglio di 400 posti (1/3) nell' impianto britannico di Ellsmere Porth. Purtroppo siamo solo all'inizio, PSA deve agire con rapidità per non permettere alle perdite Opel di affondare l'azienda.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: ven ott 20, 2017 8:25 pm 
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FRANKFURT -- PSA Group CEO Carlos Tavares has signaled possible cost cuts at its Opel unit, noting in a newspaper interview that production costs were at least 50 percent higher than at the company's French factories.

"My impression is that many problems are due to the fact that things are out of proportion at Opel, that they consume too much energy, that processes are not efficient enough," Tavares said in an interview published Friday in Die Welt.

"We have to become much more efficient, everywhere, and in all functions. The car industry is still a place where there is a lot of waste," Tavares said.

PSA is in the process of integrating Opel after buying it from General Motors, a task which analysts say will lead to sweeping job cuts.

PSA, which has already said it will use its own technology and vehicle platforms for future Opel models, will fund programs planned for the unit's headquarters in Ruesselsheim, Germany, only when convinced they will make money, Tavares added.

Existing development plans in place at Opel were simply not enough to make the company successful.

"A strategy has been pursued that simply did not work. And now we are facing the danger that Opel will not be able to meet the emissions ceilings that will come into force in 2020. This is extremely serious and extremely dangerous for the company," Tavares was quoted saying.

PSA has already said it would cut about 400 jobs at the Ellesmere Port plant of Vauxhall, the British brand also acquired along with Opel from GM.




Tavares ha fatto capire che Opel deve ridurre il gap produttivo con PSA rapidamente, tagli duri saranno inevitabili. A metà novembre verrà presentato il nuovo piano.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: mer nov 29, 2017 5:38 pm 
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PARIS -- PSA Group, which paid General Motors 1.3 billion euros for GM's European operations, now wants about half of the money back because Opel's engines are too inefficient to meet CO2 emissions reduction targets, sources told Reuters.

PSA said earlier this month it will need to move Opel models onto its own more fuel-efficient technology faster than planned to cut CO2 emissions before new EU limits are phased in from 2020-21, backed by hefty penalties.

PSA has told GM it believes it is owed more than half a billion euros and intends to pursue a legal claim on the grounds that it was misled about Opel's emissions strategy, two people familiar with the matter said.

PSA is seeking 600-800 million euros, according to one of the sources.

The companies have discussed the grievances raised by PSA, which has yet to initiate a formal claim, sources close to both automakers said.

GM spokesman David Caldwell declined to comment when asked about PSA's demand and the allegation that GM misled PSA.

PSA spokesman Bertrand Blaise also declined to comment.

Automakers are scrambling to reduce carbon emissions by the EU's 2021 deadline, when their individual EU-imposed limits will fall to an average 95 grams per km from 130 grams today. A decline in diesel sales is complicating their task, as consumers switch to less fuel-efficient gasoline cars.

The challenge is sparking big investments in smaller engines and new powertrain technologies, from battery-powered cars to rechargeable hybrids. For those who miss their targets, fines of 95 euros per vehicle, per excess gram of CO2, could add up to hundreds of millions of euros annually.

Challenges 'misrepresented'

PSA believes GM misrepresented Opel's CO2 challenges and emissions trajectory during negotiations and due diligence prior to the March acquisition deal and its formal closing on July 31.

CEO Carlos Tavares has publicly hinted as much. "We became aware a few weeks after we finalized the closing that the company was going to the wall on CO2 emissions," the PSA boss told reporters on Nov. 9, after presenting a heavily revised turnaround plan at Opel headquarters near Frankfurt. PSA shares have since fallen 11 percent, underperforming peers.

"We put our teams to work to completely rebuild the product and technology strategies," Tavares said. "If you fail to comply (with EU rules) the weight of fines you are hit with can threaten the company's existence."

Among the unpleasant surprises was a CO2 compliance plan that relied on significant sales of the Opel Ampera-e electric car, a U.S. import based on GM's Chevrolet Bolt, at a loss approaching 10,000 euros per vehicle, two sources said.

"Their technical solution was economically unviable and would have led to enormous losses," said one. "So, the first thing you do is drop that (product) line, but then the fleet emissions explode."

Under PSA, Opel has already suspended Norwegian sales of the Ampera-e - which account for most of the model’s 1,500 deliveries to date - and increased European pricing by as much as 5,700 euros.

PSA may struggle to convince GM's lawyers - and ultimately an arbitration panel - that it was not already well aware of Opel’s weak emissions track record and outlook.

Presenting the deal alongside Tavares almost five months before it closed in July, GM boss Mary Barra cited "increasing regulatory and compliance costs" as a key reason to offload Opel and its Vauxhall sister brand. "The Opel/Vauxhall business model has become more difficult," she said.

Prior to the sale, Opel was on course to miss its CO2 target by 3.7 grams, according to a PA Consulting study published in November 2016. Stripping out the Ampera-e, then projected to reach 20,000 annual sales, the overshoot rose to 6 grams.

"We've been reporting for years that Opel/Vauxhall would have significant problems meeting the CO2 targets as GM brands in Europe," said Thomas Goettle, the firm's head of automotive.

"Opel is five to seven years behind with their engine lineup," Goettle said. "We haven't seen any big GM investments in Opel to develop plug-in hybrids or zero-emissions cars."

'Under the rug'

But Opel's real situation turned out to be even worse, PSA sources said, with the company on course to miss its CO2 goal by more than 10 grams - a multiple of the "slight overshoot" discussed in deal negotiations. A margin that large would incur EU fines approaching 1 billion euros.

The gap partly reflects GM's unrealistically high diesel sales assumptions and reliance on the Ampera-e, they said.

"People who had worked on the closing realized quite quickly that there were these big discrepancies," said one. "They had been swept under the rug."

PSA is now rushing out electric or plug-in hybrid versions of Opel's Corsa, Grandland X and Crossland X models that were not part of the original plan it presented in March.

The entire Opel lineup will be redeveloped with the French carmaker's vehicle architectures and engines by 2024, three years earlier than initially planned, Tavares said on Nov. 9.

"Given comments about the need to accelerate the transition of Opel vehicles to PSA technology, we assume PSA will write down the value of its investment in Opel," Jefferies analyst Philippe Houchois said afterwards, predicting more than 1 billion euros in writedowns over the next five years.

The company paid for Opel with 650 million euros in cash and another 670 million in warrants that later convert to PSA stock. PSA and BNP Paribas also bought Opel's sales financing arm in a separate 900 million-euro transaction.

The acquisition deal, published in GM regulatory filings, provides for compensation payments if either party has been misled. Claims not settled by negotiation are referred for arbitration. For tax purposes, a GM payment to PSA would be treated as a deduction from the purchase price.

It would also add to a European exit bill already exceeding $6 billion for GM, net of sale proceeds. That reflects a $5.5 billion charge and 3-billion-euro contribution to Opel pensions, while excluding billions more in pension liabilities it kept.

During the deal negotiations, GM barred Opel staff from talking to PSA and insisted the French carmaker's due diligence requests be handled by its Detroit headquarters, sources said.

"One question that was asked was whether Opel could meet its 2021 emissions target," said one French participant. "And the answer was 'yes'."


Sono solo indiscrezioni ma sarebbero piuttosto pesanti: PSA si sentirebbe truffata da GM a causa delle eccessive emissioni della gamma Opel. Appena avvenuto il passaggio ai francesi Tavares si era detto molto innvervosito dal rischio per Opel di non poter raggiungere i target di emissione di CO2 per il 2021. Secondo le accuse di PSA Gm puntava su vendite irrealistiche per la E-Ampera e non prevedeva il lancio di varianti ibride. PSA vorrebbe avere un rimborso di 600 milioni di euro. Vogliamo credere che Tavares si sia fatto fare scemo in modo così stupido? Lo ritengo irrealistico.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Gm sta per vendere Opel a PSA
MessaggioInviato: mer nov 29, 2017 6:46 pm 
Hahaha GM si è fatta furba dopo la sola presa con Fiat...


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