Per adesso opel ha il contratto per sviluppare i pianali c-d ma ha perso i pianali di segmento b. Gm latin America aveva sempre chiesto i pianali ad Opel, adesso i nuovi prodotti nuovi come onix e spin sono su pianali Daewoo. I costi di Opel sono troppo alti per i paesi emergenti.

Contratto per sviluppare pianali?
Ma cos'è Opel, una società che riceve commesse dal suo proprietario?

Sì è normale, ad esempio la Buick Lacrosse è basata su pianale insignia, gran parte dello sviluppo lo paga opel poi la casa tedesca riceve dei fondi da parte di gm per il lavoro svolto. Lo stesso succede in casa vw: il marchio vw ha sviluppato il pianale multimodulare mqb, audi per la A3 ha pagato il marchio Vw per poterlo utilizzare.

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December 20, 2012 11:14 CET
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General Motors Co. and PSA/Peugeot-Citroen scrapped plans for a joint mid-size car program, narrowing the scope for vehicle sharing within their alliance while adding engine cooperation.

The automakers today said they had signed firm agreements to combine their future small car program as well as co-develop roomier minivans and two sizes of crossovers.

Plans to share future replacements for larger models such as the Citroen C5 and GM's Opel Insignia were shelved after the companies failed to reach a "convincing business case," a PSA spokesman said.

But with binding agreements on three other vehicle programs and new plans to pool a future generation of small gasoline engines, "the alliance is taking form and moving up a gear," the spokesman said.

The shared three-cylinder engines, designed to comply with Euro 6 emissions standards entering force around 2019, will bring big savings for both partners, PSA said, without giving details.

The companies said in their statement that the first jointly developed models will go on sale in 2016.

The joint vehicle projects will be:

• A compact crossover for the Peugeot brand and a compact multipurpose vehicle for GM's Opel and Vauxhall marques

• A subcompact multipurpose vehicle for both PSA and Opel/Vauxhall

• An upgraded low-CO2 subcompact-segment platform that will underpin Opel/Vauxhall's and PSA's next generation of cars in Europe and other regions.

The Opel/Vauxhall, Peugeot and Citroen models will be highly differentiated and fully consistent with their respective brand characteristics, the automakers said.

The companies said they will jointly develop a next generation of high-performance, fuel-efficient small gasoline engines derived from PSA's EB global small gasoline engine program. PSA introduced the EB 1.0-liter and 1.2-liter three-cylinder engine range on the Peugeot 208 subcompact earlier this year.

A definitive agreement to create a joint purchasing organization in Europe supported by a purchasing joint venture has been signed, the statement said, subject to antitrust approval.

Moving forward

The decisions carry forward the global alliance the companies agreed to earlier this year as both automakers seek to stop deep losses in the depressed and highly competitive European new-car market.

Since the alliance plan was announced in February, the partners have put aside joint plans to develop a small car for Latin America, a dual-clutch gearbox and now the tentative mid-sized car program. The door remains open to cooperation outside Europe, GM and PSA said on today, pledging further "exploration of product and industrial initiatives in Latin America or other growth markets."

GM and PSA are due to give an update next month on their cooperation plans as well as the $2 billion in estimated annual savings both companies touted when the alliance was first unveiled.

The alliance plan has drawn investor skepticism as the PSA's finances worsen, prompting Europe's second-biggest automaker after Volkswagen to cut thousands of domestic jobs and announce the closure of the Citroen C3 factory in Aulnay, near Paris..

Today's announcment "goes in the right direction and we could see the first signs of the synergies as soon as 2013," said Xavier Caroen, a Paris-based analyst at Kepler Capital Markets. "At first glance, this may seem a little disappointing, but they may have other additional announcements to make early next year. Nothing prevents them from sourcing car components worldwide and gaining access to GM's global order book," he said.

Dopo un ritardo mostruoso psa e gm hanno firmato l' accordo per lo sviluppo congiunto di modelli, questi prevedono:

Un minivan tipo merita per Peugeot
Un piccolo motore benzina 3 cilindri che psa fornirà ad Opel
Sviluppo congiunto dei veicoli commerciali
Opel fornirà a Peugeot un crossover.
Una piattaforma per auto piccole di segmento a
Un po' poco direi

Praticamente vw e Audi sono due società distinte?
Quindi l'accordo con Fiat per i commerciali finirà?

Quello sevelnord e' finito e psa ha firmato con Toyota un contratto di fornitura di veicoli commerciali. Il contratto per sevelsud sarà valido per ancora 6 anni. L' alleanza Fiat-psa per i piccoli veicoli commerciali (qubo) terminerà.

HANOVER, Germany (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. won employees' approval in Europe for labor-cost cut plans to restore earnings in the region in response to a recession that's reducing vehicle sales.

Manufacturing workers at Ford's plant in Genk, Belgium, and its suppliers will end walkouts after agreeing to severance packages of as much as 2 1/2 years of pay when the factory shuts in 2014, the company said Friday in a statement.

A pay freeze at GM's Opel brand in Germany received the backing of employees at three of the unit's five plants, the IG Metall union said separately.

Industrywide European car sales are set to fall a sixth consecutive year in 2013 after reaching a 17-year low in 2012 as a sovereign-debt crisis grips the region.

The 4,300 positions that Ford is cutting at Genk are part of a combined 30,000-job reduction outlined since mid-2012 by auto manufacturers such as PSA/Peugeot-Citroen, Renault and Opel.

"We are pleased to have reached a social plan agreement that was accepted by the unions and approved by the hourly employees at Genk," Philippe Verbeeck, operations manager for Ford at the plant, said in the statement. "We fully recognize that this has been a difficult time for everyone at the Ford Genk plant, our suppliers and the local community."

Genk production restarts



Production at the Belgian factory has been halted by labor disputes, including strikes by workers at component makers, since Ford announced plans in October to shutter the site and and two plants in the UK.

Ford on Monday restarted assembly lines at Genk, which builds the Mondeo mid-sized car as well as the S-Max and Galaxy minivans. "Our sales in the first two months of the year were significantly affected by the lack of consistent supply of the Mondeo, S-Max and Galaxy so this is welcome news for Ford, our dealers and our customers," Ford of Europe's sales and marketing head, Roelant de Waard, said in a statement on Monday. "We have strong demand for these vehicles and will now move quickly to fill orders and meet the demand."

Opel workers at the GM division's plants in Ruesselsheim, Kaiserslautern and Dudenhofen voted with majorities exceeding 83 percent to keep pay at current levels through 2015 in exchange for securing their jobs. Workers in Eisenach will vote in the coming days, while negotiations at the plant in Bochum, where vehicle production is scheduled to end in 2016, are continuing, IG Metall said.

"A negative vote, or a lack of a resolution in Bochum, doesn't mean that the contract can't be implemented at the other sites," IG Metall district leader Armin Schild said in the statement.

GM Europe, which includes Ruesselsheim-based Opel and the Luton, England-based Vauxhall brand, has lost $18 billion since 1999, including a $1.8 billion deficit last year. Ford lost $1.5 billion in Europe in 2012, and expects the figure to widen to $2 billion this year.

Bochum's conversion

Opel has laid out plans to convert the plant in Bochum to a parts-production and logistics operation, which would secure 1,200 of the more than 3,000 jobs at the site.

Rainer Einenkel, head of the plant's works council, said on March 1 that he didn't support the broader labor agreement with Opel management.

GM Europe has a target of improving earnings this year, helped by new models such as the Mokka subcompact SUVs and Adam minicar, and aims to break even by 2015.

Opel, led by former Volkswagen AG manager Karl-Thomas Neumann since the beginning of this month, will refrain from mass firings to reduce the 20,000-employee work force in Germany under the pay- freeze agreement.

Steve Girsky, the GM vice chairman in charge of European operations on an interim basis until Neumann took over, threatened in January to close the Bochum assembly plant by the beginning of 2015 if the Opel employees didn't agree to concessions.

Girsky has said repeatedly that Detroit-based GM supports Opel's turnaround plan.

Renault, France's second-biggest auto manufacturer, agreed with labor leaders on March 13 on cutting its domestic work force by 17 percent and freezing pay in exchange for a pledge not to close plants for three years.

Larger Paris-based competitor PSA/Peugeot-Citroen is also seeking a 17 percent reduction in jobs at its French plants, including 3,000 posts that disappearing when it closes a factory in Aulnay in late 2014.


Opel si è accordata con i sindacati per il piano dei tagli, gli stipendi saranno congelati per altri 2 anni e viene confermata la fine della produzione di autoveicoli a Bochum. Gm rinuncerà ad altri tagli fino al 2015 e porterà in europa alcuni prodotti attualmente costruiti in Corea come la Mokka e l' Antara.

GM will integrate Russia into its Europe business

Automotive News Europe
October 18, 2013 12:46 CET
General Motors today said it will integrate its Russian operations into its GM Europe business in a move that will help the automaker's struggling Opel brand.

Russia is forecast to surpass Germany as Europe's biggest new-car market within five years despite a recent slowdown in the country's economy that has led forecasters to predict a 5 percent drop in vehicle sales to 2.79 million this year.

"This is the right decision at the right time. Russia is an important part of the European market and for Opel it is the third biggest market in Europe," Karl-Thomas Neumann, GM Europe President and Opel CEO, said in a statement.

GM's business in Russia is currently run by GM International Operations based in Shanghai.

GM's brands in Russia are Opel, Chevrolet and Cadillac.

Chevrolet sells more cars in Russia than Opel. Chevrolet is the country's fifth best-selling car brand with nine-month sales of 127,742 units, down 17 percent, according to the Association of Businesses in Russia. Opel was the No. 12 brand with sales of 60,045, down 2 percent. Cadillac sales were down 32 percent to 1,124.

Neumann said: "Opel enjoys high reputation in Russia. With our strong model portfolio we want to clearly increase our market share."

New Russia boss

GM said Andy Dunstan will take over the management of its business in Russia effective November 1. Currently Dunstan is head of sales for central and eastern Europe and international operations. Dunstan will report to Neumann.

GM's current Russia boss, Jim Bovenzi, will move to Detroit as executive director of global localization strategy.

Opel has been hit by the slump in its core German and other EU markets. The brand's EU sales fell by nearly 4 percent in the first nine months to 620,386 units, according to industry association ACEA.

GM's European operations lost $1.8 billion last year and the automaker said on July 25 that it expects a "slightly better" result this year.


Chissà come Gm ha fatto qualcosa di positivo per opel, sarà stato sicuramente uno sbaglio.
D'ora in poi il mercato russo verrà conteggiato in Gm Europa quindi aiuterà Opel a ritornare alla redditività più presto del previsto.

Automotive News
November 15, 2013 - 4:45 pm ET -- UPDATED: 11/15/13 5:50 pm ET - adds details
DETROIT -- General Motors CEO Dan Akerson says he's frustrated by the "confusing" overlap between GM's Chevy and Opel brands in Europe, signaling that a major strategic shift is ahead to change the company's brand strategy there.

"It is of concern to me," Akerson told Automotive News this week. "Something has to change. I just think there's channel conflict and confusion."

Akerson said the conflict between the two brands is reminiscent of "retro GM," when the company's U.S. market strategy was cluttered by overlapping brands.

His remarks are the most forceful public comments yet from GM on the need to sort out its brand mix in Europe.

Despite several years of efforts to move Opel upmarket to clear a path for Chevy's growth as an entry-level player, both brands continue to be seen as similarly positioned, mainstream marques.

Akerson said that GM is working on a plan to resolve the problem but declined to discuss potential strategies.

"It is something we are going to resolve one way or another," he said.

Chevrolet sales in Europe slid 19 percent through September, to 112,452.

Opel/Vauxhall sales, helped by sharp demand for a few new nameplates, including the Opel Mokka crossover, slipped 4 percent, to 630,453 units, in line with the overall market's decline.

GM has lost more than $18 billion in Europe since 1999 and hopes to break-even there by mid-decade.

GM executives in recent months have confirmed that they are reviewing the European brand strategy. But they have largely played down the problem of Chevy-Opel overlap.

Thomas Sedran, a former corporate restructuring consultant who took over this summer as head of Chevrolet Europe, said at the Frankfurt auto show in September that there is "very little interaction between" Chevy and Opel.



Come si dice meglio tardi che mai: dopo anni dallo sbarco di chevrolet in Europa il ceo di gm ha ammesso che è' stata una cretinata dato che ha esacerbato i problemi di Opel.
Adesso si sta rivedendo la strategia.

Diciamo che l'idea iniziale non era male posizionare in un livello più alto opel circa come VW e dawrolet al livello di skoda.
Peccato che per motivi talora anche incomprensibili, forse astra troppo grossa-grassa, opel pur con auto finite quasi da premiumm per vendere, in ogni caso poco, deve fare prezzi non molto dissimili dalle dawrolet che ora a livello di prodotto sono migliorate non poco.
Risultato opel, dawrolet , skoda nell'immagine del consumatore medio europeo (in italia c'è chi invece ritiene ancora opel come tedesca )sono molto simili.

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

il discorso come ben dici è che molti modelli sono identici, altri sono abbastanza simili a livello di contenuti (le chev sono migliorate non poco).

su alcuni segmenti (A e suv) il marchio non ha mai importato molto (infatti sono stati rampa di lancio per i coreani) e li chev ha ammazzato opel. negli altri penso sia la situazione inversa, ovvero opel, ormai ridotta a fare il 30% di sconto sulla gamma per fare volumi, ammazza chevrolet.

di base cmq gamma sovrapposta, o vendi una o vendi l'altra. le condizioni di mercato hanno portato a pressione promozionale esagerata per opel (che si sogna la premiumness ormai), rendendo l'operazione "sbagliata"

imho cmq quando la scelta è stata presa anni fa, non era del tutto sbagliata.

secondo me un problema, che prima o poi anche renault dovrà risolvere e vw non risolverà mai, è che i marchi nati come low cost hanno alzato tantissimo il livello di prodotto, rendendosi in realtà concorrenza interna al generalista.

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non posso aspettar l'Ateca...

Il problema è quello, ma secondo me anche incomprensibilmente (provate a entrare in una polo mediamente venduta per vedere quanto è triste...) vw ne è più immune di altre, riesce a non calare coi suoi prodotti nonostante la forte concorrenza interna di audi a livello più alto che anzi aumenta sempre, né sotto con skoda che toglie ad altri più che a vw.
Ad esempio in alcuni stati di lingua e cultura tedesca a noi confinanti austria-svizzera skoda sono le seconde auto più venduta dopo vw...non molti anni fa erano proprio le opel.

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

In linea teorica gm voleva creare tra Opel e Chevrolet la stessa distanza che c' e' tra Skoda e Vw, nella realtà il risultato e' stato un disastro.
Ad inizio 2002 Gm decise di rendere globale il marchio chevrolet a danno di opel in Europa e di buick in Cina.
Chevrolet non produce in Europa ma quasi esclusivamente in Corea, così ha costi nettamente inferiori ai tedeschi, in mercati promettenti come quello russo e' stata data precedenza a Chevrolet, anche quando si è scoperto che Opel aveva margini ben più alti.
La sovrapposizione di prodotti tra i 2 marchi e' fortissima, molti prodotti sono quasi uguali come Antara/Captiva e Mokka/trax, Il 40% dei concessionari nel vecchio continente dei 2 marchi sono condivisi.
Insomma una debacle, non escludo che gm voglia cancellare del tutto Opel per dar spazio a chevrolet.

Vendendo auto costruite in Corea con un marchio americano facendole passare per tedesche? Anche questa mi pare una mezza cazzata...

Nel 2009 quando sia Gm che Opel erano fallite ( salvate rispettivamente dagli Usa e dalla Germania) il management americano voleva chiudere il marchio tedesco e fave uno studio.
Il costo sarebbe stato di ben 12 miliardi (4 fabbriche su 8 da chiudere) e Chevrolet avrebbe conquistato meno del 4% del mercato continentale.
Man mano gm sta riducendo Opel fino a quando i costi di ristrutturazione saranno gestibili.

http://it.reuters.com/article/itEuroRpt ... YZ20131205

L'importante è poche idee ma confuse...

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Vw T-Roc 1.0
Guidavo Alfa 147 JTDm e Mazda MX-5 NC 1.8

Si puo quantificare lo spreco di soldi per chiamare Vauxhall le Opel con guida a destra?
No perche ancora oggi non capisco perche tenere in vita il marchio senza modelli specifici.

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-- LE IENE PORTANO BENE --
- Renault New Laguna Sportour 4Control 2.0 dCi 150cv - 06/2010 -
- Suzuki GSR 600 K6 - 04/2006 -
- Ford Transit VII T350L 2.2 Tdci 140 cv - 06/2008
- [New entry] Lancia Delta Oro 1.4 T-Jet GPL 120 cv - 09/2008

Beh anche se noi italiani pensiamo a opel come marchio tedesco, anche prima della crisi nera che sta attraversando opel, le Vauxhall in GB hanno sempre venduta ben più che opel in germania, ora poi opel in europa campa per lo più grazie alla GB.
Cmq tutti si aspettavano dawrolet al posto di opel e riamarchiate Vauxhall in GB, invece sarà proprio dawrolet ad essere tagliata dall'europa

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

Come dicono gli inglesi questa scelta era " long overdue" dovuta da tempo.
Opel non è riuscita a salire come posizionamento, i prezzi sono più cari di qualche anno fa ma poi i concessionari si svenano per fare gli sconti.
Chevrolet ha sempre pestato i piedi ai tedeschi, Antara/Captiva, Mokka /Trax sono troppo simili.
Purtroppo non e' affatto detto che la ritirata di Chevrolet dall' Europa aiuterà Opel.

Beh però quello sono dawrolet non opel, in ogni caso opel per vendere (cmq non molto) fa sconti dal 20-30% basta aprire il sito, ai quei livelli di prezzo simili gm ha forse preferito tagliare dawrolet per tenere un avamposto anche di fabbriche in europa.

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ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA jtdm-2 20 170cv- distinctive-pack premium-pack sport 18 - Luglio 2010 -superati i 313.333KM!!!

Ci ho pensato mentre scrivevo! Sarà che gli inglesi mi stanno particolarmente sui cojoni...

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-- LE IENE PORTANO BENE --
- Renault New Laguna Sportour 4Control 2.0 dCi 150cv - 06/2010 -
- Suzuki GSR 600 K6 - 04/2006 -
- Ford Transit VII T350L 2.2 Tdci 140 cv - 06/2008
- [New entry] Lancia Delta Oro 1.4 T-Jet GPL 120 cv - 09/2008

I problemi di Opel durano da decenni, tranne qualche anno Opel e' in passivo dal 1993.
Farsi pure concorrenza con Chevrolet in Europa ( unico mercato di Opel) é tafazziano.
E' solo un primo passo, almeno ci saranno più soldi da investire per il mercato europeo.